Issue 16: Zackery Hobler: Impermanence and the Photobook

Narrative Layers commentary on Muhammad Salah’s Hölzung (Granta)

GALERIA LOCAL

by Zackery Hobler

Welcome — and thank you for reading.

This issue brings together two distinct explorations of photography.

First, a conversation with Canadian photographer Zackery Hobler, where we discuss the photobook as a form — not only as an object but as a way of building community, shaping narrative, and holding fragile moments. From the Toronto Photobook Library to his projects Beneath Two Skies and Segments and Leaves Laying About, Hobler reflects on fire, form, and the pursuit of revelation through the page.

In Narrative Layers, I begin a two-part commentary inspired by Hölzung, an essay published in Granta. It sparked reflections on memory, mapping, and the quiet places where photography lingers — at the edges of towns, in gardens, and on the thresholds between presence and absence. The second part will follow in the next issue.

As always, thank you for reading,

—Jorge

Interview
THE BURNING PHOTOGRAPH

A Conversation with Zackery Hobler

The Photobook as Community
Our conversation began with the Toronto Photobook Library, which Hobbler ran from 2017 to 2023. What started as a casual idea of sharing his own collection with friends quickly grew into a collaboration with Toronto’s Contact Festival. The library hosted reading rooms, panels, and talks, but its essence was always the same: a place where people could sit with photobooks without the pressure to buy them. For Hobbler, it was about cultivating a community of looking, a library without lending, and resisting the idea that such encounters could simply migrate online.

Toronto Photobook Library

Beneath Two Skies
From this collective project we turned to Beneath Two Skies, Hobbler’s long-term exploration of prescribed burns across Ontario. For nearly a decade he photographed the fragile, unsettling landscapes of controlled fire. The resulting book is not a collection of dramatic flames but a meditation on instability and perception—tilting horizons, flickers of orange in the green, an atmosphere of fragility and renewal. As Hobbler explained:

“If I show a bunch of like really pretty pictures of fire… the book kind of closes. You see it once, you describe it, and it’s done. I wanted fire to be an element of the landscape, not the headline.”

The structure of the book follows this principle. What begins as an apparently straightforward study of woodland gradually reveals the presence of fire, not as spectacle but as a quiet force running through the sequence.

by Zackery Hobler

by Zackery Hobler

Segments and Leaves Laying About
If Beneath Two Skies immerses us in atmosphere, Segments and Leaves Laying About works by reduction. Built around a single image, repeated and altered by translucent overlays and small drawings, it culminates in burned holes piercing the pages. The book becomes a material experiment, dismantling the photograph within the form of the book itself. Fire returns here not as subject but as mark, a physical trace that destabilizes the image.

by Zackery Hobler

Narrative Possibilities
Taken together, the two projects reveal Hobbler’s view of the photobook as a narrative device. He resists straightforward comparisons with literature, insisting that photography works on a different register, but acknowledges that sequencing can carry its own kind of narrative: associative, rhythmic, and sometimes revelatory.

“You’re looking for this thing and all of a sudden something hits and you don’t know what about it is resonating, but you just know you have to keep going.”

For Hobbler, this is the essence of photographic process: long stretches of uncertainty punctuated by revelation. The book becomes the form that holds this movement—between not knowing and sudden recognition.

by Zackery Hobler

Looking Ahead
Our conversation ended with his current work in Paris. Photographing in rain-soaked parks, Hobbler finds himself drawn to the contrast between miserable conditions and the joy of making images. In this pursuit he has also found himself tracing the footsteps of a key figure in photography’s history:

“I very naively went into one of the Parisian parks where Atget was shooting, just to see what he saw and how different it might be.”

This blend of continuity and difference—between Atget’s Paris and his own, between discomfort and delight—marks the direction of Hobbler’s current practice. As with fire, form, and revelation, it is less about a subject than about the pursuit of a feeling, one that only the photobook can finally give shape to.

Narrative Layers

his is the first of a two-part commentary on Hölzung, published in Granta. The essay’s images and phrasing sparked snapshots of my own — on looking, memory, place, and the stillness of photographs. What follows is the beginning of that dialogue; the second part will appear in the next issue.

The images illustrating these snapshots are from my ongoing project Arcadia.

Hölzung

An Unencumbered Gaze
Hölzung opens with a quiet question: What is an unencumbered gaze, and when does it begin to see?
It reminded me of another, posed in Seeing Things by Emily LaBarge: When does one stop seeing?
If LaBarge walks through the city with a whole library in tow — every glance refracted through memory, culture, citation —

The gaze here lingers. A state of mind: receptive, tentative, slightly detached.

by Jorge Silva

Memory, by Weather
Not a library. Not an archive. Memory, here, is a weather system. It arrives unbidden — with fog, with amber leaf, with the sound of boots on a bridge. It is stirred by textures and temperatures more than by names.
We do not choose what we remember. A shadowless light, a map’s curve, a floodplain road — these do the choosing. And unlike recall, forgetting is not a matter of effort. It simply waits, until something small calls it forth again.

“I’d like to be a blank surface for the pictures to impress themselves on. But unlike recalling, forgetting is not a question of effort.”

Every Frame, a Map
Photographs do not merely show. They chart.
Each rectangle is a compass, and we — the viewers — move across it trying to connect the red to the yellow, the inside to the out, the woman to the wall, the warmth to the cold.
We draw these mental maps not for navigation, but for meaning.
As children, we searched for treasure. As adults, we search for structure. And in the absence of both, we draw a line between the clues and call it story.

by Jorge Silva

“Every lens frames the world, and for a while we as beholders look and name and draw or jump to conclusions as if the frame were the world.”

On the Outskirts

There is a comfort at the edge of things, a threshold where towns soften into woodland and footsteps fall more gently. A road of departure, arrival, passage — these places feel suspended, neither wholly city nor wholly wild.

I have photographed such places myself, gardens ringed by silence, spaces where no one asks, no one minds. Perhaps that's why photographers find themselves drawn to these in-betweens. To be the margin at the margin is not just to depict it, but to feel at home there. A camera is easier to raise when no one is watching, and in that sense the photographer too becomes a marginal, working from the periphery in the shelter of all forgotten light.

by Jorge Silva

Arcadia’s Opening – September 2025

Opening at Galeria Local in September 2025, the Arcadia exhibition invites a fresh gaze on urban nature. It challenges viewers to see gardens as living dialogues, where human design meets nature’s persistent voice.

Coming Next:

The Frame as a Parallel to Perception

In the next installment of my series with Them Frames, I’ll be sharing the second essay: The Frame as a Parallel to Perception.

The piece explores how the photographic frame mirrors the limits of our own perception. Just as our senses filter and select what matters, the act of framing transforms those constraints into deliberate choices — turning ordinary details into meaningful images. From William Eggleston’s red ceiling to Roland Barthes’ reflections in Camera Lucida, the essay traces how photographers transform perception into vision.

Look out for it soon in Them Frames.

The ordinary is a very under-exploited aspect of our lives because it is so familiar.”

Martin Parr

Until next time,